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Author:  JIN S13 [ Tue Apr 17, 2007 12:57 am ]
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One friend spend about 30k on his rotary= end result still wasnt perfect :P
Author:  BT [ Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:33 am ]
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bogan wrote:
fergo308 wrote:
like any engine,the sky is the limit.


don't tell xris that though, he might spend more time and money on his CA ;D


Space is the limit for him! :P
Author:  fergo308 [ Tue Apr 17, 2007 9:37 pm ]
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Nebuchernezzer wrote:
lols
I daresay a type R will scare a S series off the track even if it's stocker vs modded.
With a competent driver of course.


no. ask OMG about the good old days in the goblin vs. the infamous yellow type R. the type R was stock bar grippy rubber,good pads and braided lines,and had a very talented owner. the goblin had about 230kw atw,and a decent suspension setup using all the usual bolt on stuff.
once OMG got serious,the type R was left in the weeds.

a type R may do 14's in relatively stock form,but there are a lot of S series cars running around the 12's,and several doing sub 1'10" laps without huge investment.


Justin...
Author:  Nebuchernezzer [ Tue Apr 17, 2007 11:20 pm ]
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So you are saying it takes a fairly seriously modded S series to beat an R?

In all honesty though didn't really mean that modded, i was thinking more like my own car which has more typical power up mods and should leave an R for dead in a straight line.

I'd like to try out a DC2R one day, i've always liked them for some reason.
Author:  fergo308 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:54 am ]
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straight line wins are easy,all you need is boost-up level mods. to beat one anywhere,anytime,you need the usual light tune level work.

the S series have awesome power potential,but the handling isn't there without some investment. that's all the R has going for it,quite good handling out of the box.


Justin...
Author:  Nebuchernezzer [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 11:40 am ]
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Indeedy, i guess that is kind of the point though isn't it?

Either way i'd like to have a punt in one some day :).

Kind of like how i'd like to try drifting an AE86, i don't know weather i'll like it but i like the idea and i want to have a go hehe.
Author:  JIN S13 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 12:44 pm ]
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One thing that is not in the equation is the drivers skills. Thats why i dislike evos because they make any fool look good. My friend who is a good rotary and ae 86 driver makes most people look bad, but than again he takes hugh risks
Author:  Nebuchernezzer [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 2:05 pm ]
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The bloke you talking about is an ex AE86 driver actually ya?
Author:  JayS14 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 7:35 pm ]
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JIN S13 wrote:
One thing that is not in the equation is the drivers skills. Thats why i dislike evos because they make any fool look good. My friend who is a good rotary and ae 86 driver makes most people look bad, but than again he takes hugh risks
You can be fast without takeing risks.
Author:  Nebuchernezzer [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 8:56 pm ]
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Probably faster in fact ;).
When you try to go too fast you actually go slower.
Author:  fergo308 [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 9:00 pm ]
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Nebuchernezzer wrote:
i'd like to try drifting an AE86, i don't know weather i'll like it but i like the idea and i want to have a go hehe.



it's VERY different to something with oodles of power like a silvia. if you don't have the basic techniques down,forget it. the cliched lines from drift bible,and initial D about the ae86 are actually pretty accurate. the ae86 is an honest car,that you can't use any cheats or tricks with. it trains you to do the job properly.

I learned a lot driving my previous ae86's,and am looking forward to getting my project car finished so I can get back out and have fun again.


Justin...
Author:  Nebuchernezzer [ Wed Apr 18, 2007 10:35 pm ]
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Well my 140rwkw isn't exactly oodles....unless you drive a hachi hehe!

Yeah that's partly why i'd love to try one, just to see how my drifting goes in a car with no power. I've tried no power but a decent ammount of torque (R31 with RB30E) but i've not tried a car with no torque either.
Author:  reaper [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 11:54 am ]
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you only have 140rwkw with your t28 or are u talking about when u were still running the t25?
Author:  Nebuchernezzer [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:17 pm ]
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0.8 bar (spikes 1 bar ish) on a T28 isn't much.
To be honest there is no disernable difference between the T25G and the T28 with my car how it is.
And i don't care!! :lol: If i wasn't lazy i'd go play with it till it held 1 bar.
But meh.
140rwkw is based on my mate Chris's dyno readout, he, myself and Mike all run identical mods, boost etc and that's what his car got.
When we drive/drift together our acceleration is lineball.
If you want to be pedantic i'm sure you could get anywhere in the 140-150rwkw range by putting different cars on different dynos but that's the ballpark :).

My dream project is a KE70 turbo.
Turbo the 4KC :).
I so want to do it, 80rwkw would be my aim!
Author:  Magnet [ Thu Apr 19, 2007 6:28 pm ]
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fergo308 wrote:
it's VERY different to something with oodles of power like a silvia. if you don't have the basic techniques down,forget it. the ae86 is an honest car,that you can't use any cheats or tricks with. it trains you to do the job properly.

I learned a lot driving my previous ae86's,and am looking forward to getting my project car finished so I can get back out and have fun again.

I think it'd be much the same as drifting an NA silvia. I've had a go in the dry every now and then, nothing spectacular but it allows you to learn how to throw the car around and slide just with inertia and that. As soon as i jumped into a sil with power it definatly helped a lot with control as it's less intense than an NA.
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