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The next GT-R has been confirmed for release at the end of 2007 with a 3.6L twin turbo VQ based engine generating 450ps. But starting at 9 million yen (AUD$108,000) it won't be cheap...

Allow a good year or two following release in Japan before the first of these machines hits Australian shores thanks to the red tape of SEVS. So if you want one you may have to wait until about 2009.

Based on the price in Japan, it would cost about $150,000 to have one on the road in Australia. So it would be worthwhile waiting for 2 to 4 years for the price to fall to a more realistic level.

Give it 5 to 8 years, and the price should be in the $50,000 to $60,000 range like the current price of R34 GTR's.


http://www.prestigemotorsport.com.au/modules/news/article.php?storyid=21

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was thinking about selling my left kidney to buy one, but that probably wont raise enough cash so I'm offering my left testicle as well.


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All im going to say is don't beleive everything you read about the next GTR.

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R34 GT-R's are now 50-60k?
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I remember when they were 100k+


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R34 GT-R's are now 50-60k?


thats what your s13 is worth now in mods alone isnt it?

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100k? yeah. :lol:


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Care to tell us what you have heard down the nissan grapevine Risking?

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Have a look at the photo.

Its got "Skyline" written on it, after Carlos Ghosn said the new one would just be a "GT-R".


And 450ps is sweet fuck all. I'm hoping that if it runs a VQ and it expects to earn its "supercar" status, it'll make at least 550ps. Maybe even 600.

The APS TT kit puts out 380hp (so 386ps) at the tyres, with an unopened VQ35DE. And I know guys that have daily driven theirs for 2 years, and done a couple of track session / skidpans etc without issue.

So if you allow for drivetrain loss being a percentage rather than an absolute figure, that's around 500ps at the flywheel. Even if you assume that the drivetrain absorbs the same number of kilowatts at the stock output and the modified output (which I don't think is the case) that's still a touch over 450ps.

And Nissan can't manage to even match that with an extra 200cc of displacement and with a properly built engine? The VQ35DE isn't exactly a boost-friendly engine, in stock form. And the APS kit feels as smooth as a stock S15 in terms of power delivery so its not like its working hard to make those numbers.

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600ps? The GTR is not a supercar.


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But those are just numbers, and we all knew about the numbers that the previous GTR's/RB26DETT put out.

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The numbers were artificially low because of the 280ps agreement the manufacturers had with the government regarding engine outputs on passenger cars.

Since that's no longer the case, we should be able to expect future cars to publish true figures.

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that is true, but even at whatever power the stock engines made, they were all built with a higher intended output (to suit group A racing), surely they wouldnt lay out all their cards on the table just like that (although the 350z's final output was a bit of an anti climax)

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Alan hit the nail fair on the head.

The GTR will be a GTR. Not a skyline.

A few different models perhaps??

A few magazines rated the R34 against the porsche a while back. I can't remember which model it was. But the Line got its arse handed to it on a plate by several publications. From what I have heard it won't be happening again.
As far as im concerned what we see here is yet another "story" Untill I see an official release date put up on nissan's intranet and have documentation about the vehicle in my hand I won't beleive a thing

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reminds me of the supra
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