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PostPosted: Fri Dec 08, 2006 8:12 am 
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cheers for the support. got to remember this is 100% fresh engine, and i built it myself. so youve got to expect some form of tuning issues (just fine tuning really, everything is fine. comp was down on all cylinders 70,70,70,70 and its making 170kw cam timing is out so once thats sorted and the cat is removed we should see some descent figures.)

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hmmm.. 170rwkw at 14psi.. thats a pretty poor effort ;) My car makes 190rwkw at 8 psi and yes its a SR20DET what more do I need to say? NOTHING


I call bullshit...

hang in there Xris...

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well all i can say is FFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFFUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUUCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCCKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKKK!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

fucking ca's i hate them. Im making 170kw out of 2cylinders yep thats right number 1 and 4 are about 50psi each. head is coming off on monday, pulling the pistons out and checking the rings and bores. im no longer going to do any work on the engine seems like i have a death touch. Will find out on monday if i have ovaled bores (doubt it). think its glazed or somehow i screwed the rings up (i dont think so but hey i double and tripple checked them and reput them on twice). dunno but will find out on monday when they pull the head off.

i have now killed 4 ca's 3 in workshops 1 thrashing (the one thrashing was the stock engine which lasted 2 years haha).

oh well. just looks like it will be back up and running by christmas.

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fucking ca's i hate them.


Never thought i'd be putting those words into a quote from you. :o

Sorry to hear mate, I hope you get to the bottom of it all on Monday and the damage isn't too bad.

It takes guts to tell everyone how it is on this forum amongst all the haters too. :)

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hey those words were said many years ago, in a thread where xris said he was going to put an SR in.
I'm not sure what happened from then on :P

Either way, that sucks to hear!

There is a certain art to engine building, which is why it tends to be a very long and expensive process to learn. Even the pros get it wrong (way too frequently!) which is why I'm a bit of a fan of using decent condition second hand standard engines rather than rebuilt ones!

If the cam timing was way out you may have bent some valves, which could explain the low compression (more likely than any major bore related issue, unless you really messed up on the rings or sizing!)

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My car makes 190rwkw at 8 psi and yes its a SR20DET what more do I need to say? NOTHING

maybe you need to say you have a boost gauge on crack juice ! theres no way your sr20 is making 190rwkw on 8psi, thats happy land numbers

bad luck dude, it will be important to find out the cause of the problem so that it doesnt happen again.


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the 190rwkw at 8psi car has a 3037 and lots of other stuff.
It also doesn't have boost till about 5000 :P

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My car makes 190rwkw at 8 psi and yes its a SR20DET what more do I need to say? NOTHING

maybe you need to say you have a boost gauge on crack juice ! theres no way your sr20 is making 190rwkw on 8psi, thats happy land numbers

bad luck dude, it will be important to find out the cause of the problem so that it doesnt happen again.


my mates sr20, stock with mild cams (prolly step1) and a 2840 turbo makes 180+rwkw on 10psi...stock computer only limit is its maxxing out stock injectors...boosting pretty much off idle...

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yep oricles right i gots the dyno sheet to prove it too :D

it made 179 on 9 psi and 189.4 on 11.5 psi


.... i give the good numbers to the quality of the install and setup completed by the guys from hilarious motorsport (shameless plug)

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yeh but definately hope to see u get the CA running properly! :D looks like u've put alot of work into it!

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There is no doubt there are those engines that perform better than average but he is claiming another 10rwkw with 2 psi less boost. I think it is time he invested in a new boost gauge.

Sorry to hear about your bad luch xris. Did you bore and hone the engine during the rebuild?

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Holy crap!
And i thought the saga was nearing it's end!
Bad news :(
Hope it's somthing that doesn't require to much time/money to fix.

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yeh hahhaa i said it awhile back like dumhead said yeh i have moments of madness where the easier sr20 path looks like the best choice. but i do things the hard way and im almost finished so hell why not just keep emptying money into this little bitch. :lol:

I'll keep going with it and get it running. hopefully valves arent bent as i'll be mega pissed (cost more than rings to replace haha bloody custom valves lol) pretty sure its not head as comp test came back with increase in compression when oil was put in.

i dont think the engine building was the problem at all. i made sure everything was perfect as i didnt want what has happened to happen again :evil: but it did. this time it wasnt oil line problems. oil pump is good, oil pressure is there everything is good so it can only be something simple like rings (better not have scored the bore grrrr or its new block time (i have a spare lucky!) lol. oh well like i said monday/next week will reveal all. tempted to just tell him to dump a 13b in it :D hehe

block was bored out to fit the pistons i used. they fit very well.

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yeh hahhaa i said it awhile back like dumhead said yeh i have moments of madness where the easier sr20 path looks like the best choice. but i do things the hard way and im almost finished so hell why not just keep emptying money into this little bitch. :lol:


hehe u and 182GO should team up :P j/k

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i have moments of smart where the easier sr20 path looks like the best choice.

tempted to just tell him to dump a 13b in it :D hehe


you really do like to do things the hard way don't you? :P

The reason the SR is popular is because it's damn good!

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