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 Post subject: quarter mile times?
PostPosted: Mon Jul 17, 2006 2:29 am 
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hay ppl just wanted 2 no how outher 180sx go like down the quarter ive done a 13 flat spinning 1.2.3 gear so could even be in the 12 so how do they go????

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Not sure I fully understand your question... they go proportial to the HP.
Have seen them run 11s seen them run 14s...

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just wanted 2 no how outher 180 go like :wink:

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If mine made it to the other end of the track it would have run somewhere around a mid 12 i'm guessing.

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posting what power to times would help u to understand the difference to your own car.


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yer well i got 215kw at the wheels and ive done a 13 flat spinning 1.2.3. gear :evil:

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learn to drive the car and watch the times fall
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Just imagine what it would be like with grip!

Note: holding the accelerator on the floor doesnt necessarily make the car accelerate faster :P


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Arkhaeon wrote:
learn to drive the car and watch the times fall
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Just imagine what it would be like with grip!

Note: holding the accelerator on the floor doesnt necessarily make the car accelerate faster :P


Most times it wil though :lol: I know what Ark is saying... You have to get traction to move forward and straight to the floor is not necessarily the best way to achieve that traction.

ringin What 60ft times are you running?

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The MPH will generally give you a better indication of what the car is capable of, than the ET. As for the best possible ET you need a perfect run, which is very difficult to get.
So I would suggest posting your ET and your MPH.
I ran a 13.1 at 108mph in my R33 on the old Eastern Creek track a few years ago.

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P.S. I also suggest to only include real 1/4 mile times, not bull sh!t G-Tech times.


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should hit low 12's next time out, 14 months off the road in development

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MFX wrote:
The MPH will generally give you a better indication of what the car is capable of, than the ET. As for the best possible ET you need a perfect run, which is very difficult to get.
So I would suggest posting your ET and your MPH.
I ran a 13.1 at 108mph in my R33 on the old Eastern Creek track a few years ago.

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P.S. I also suggest to only include real 1/4 mile times, not bull sh!t G-Tech times.


If it was a NA engine yes I would agree that MPH is a good indicator. I ran 14.443 @ 103.xx mph a couple of weeks ago. That was with a massive bog on the start and missed third gear. but it is only a couple of MPH slower than DREAMD's 13.2 second run.

What I think is a more reliable indicator is the 60ft times. That 14.4 run was something like a 2.694 60 ft the next run was 1.92 60 ft. That is nearly 8/10th of a second quicker to the 60ft mark which would have been in the 12's but I doubt the MPH would have been all that much higher, maybe 110+

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182Go wrote:
MFX wrote:
The MPH will generally give you a better indication of what the car is capable of, than the ET. As for the best possible ET you need a perfect run, which is very difficult to get.
So I would suggest posting your ET and your MPH.
I ran a 13.1 at 108mph in my R33 on the old Eastern Creek track a few years ago.

Jeff.

P.S. I also suggest to only include real 1/4 mile times, not bull sh!t G-Tech times.


If it was a NA engine yes I would agree that MPH is a good indicator. I ran 14.443 @ 103.xx mph a couple of weeks ago. That was with a massive bog on the start and missed third gear. but it is only a couple of MPH slower than DREAMD's 13.2 second run.

What I think is a more reliable indicator is the 60ft times. That 14.4 run was something like a 2.694 60 ft the next run was 1.92 60 ft. That is nearly 8/10th of a second quicker to the 60ft mark which would have been in the 12's but I doubt the MPH would have been all that much higher, maybe 110+


NA or Turbo, doesn't matter. Your statement proved my point. Even with a crappy 60', you can see your car easily has a good 13 potential with a 103 MPH, and as you showed, with a much better 60ft your MPH barely changed.
So as I said the MPH will give you a better idea of what you could run with a perfect run.

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Not really sure it proved your point....
I didn't make it to the other end of the track so I was only guessing at 110+

The point I was making was slow 60ft = 14.443 fast 60ft = probably 2 seconds quicker ET but MPH would stay fairly stable. Bulk of the MPH in a turbo cars can still be achieved even with a bad start and missing a gear. Where as the ET would be very very different.

That is why I dissagree that MPH is a good indicator of ET. 60 ft times on the other hand reflect slow start poor ET fast start would have been good ET (had to be at least 8/10th of a second faster without taking into consideration of the missed gear)

NA engine would never pull back the MPH from a bogged start and missed gear and that is where MPH would reflect the ET.

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theres too many variables involved in the 60ft time for it to be a good indicator of one variable such as speed

traction/tyres, FWD, 4WD, suspension setup, all these have a bearing on your launch and will affect your 60ft alot.


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182Go wrote:
Not really sure it proved your point....
I didn't make it to the other end of the track so I was only guessing at 110+

The point I was making was slow 60ft = 14.443 fast 60ft = probably 2 seconds quicker ET but MPH would stay fairly stable. Bulk of the MPH in a turbo cars can still be achieved even with a bad start and missing a gear. Where as the ET would be very very different.

That is why I dissagree that MPH is a good indicator of ET. 60 ft times on the other hand reflect slow start poor ET fast start would have been good ET (had to be at least 8/10th of a second faster without taking into consideration of the missed gear)

NA engine would never pull back the MPH from a bogged start and missed gear and that is where MPH would reflect the ET.


An NA will still give a similar MPH from a good start or a bad start, just as a Turbo car will. Ask any NA drag racer.
As for the 60', that will tell you how good your run in your car will be but not a thing towards the potential of the car. For example, one of my mates came out to the track with me in his stock 180 and he got a 1.9 60' and pulled a 14.7. In my 200+KW Skyline I got a 2.1 60' and got a 13.1 so the 60' thing doesn't tell you much about the cars final quater mile potential.

If you ask any real drag racer and they will tell you that the MPH is the best indicator or a cars quater mile potential. For example I have done about 5 runs in my Skyline with ET's varying from 13.1 to a 14.0 but the MPH was always between 106 and 108 MPH.

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