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Why even post here and ask if you know it all already?

in the case of the two engines you're comparing,an SR20 and an RB20,the rb is the loser by a fair margin. the only advantage is has over an SR is smoothness,and maybe a little more torque on paper,but noone's ever seen it in practice,and even if it was there,it's far outweighed by the extra size and weight of the damed thing,along with the stuffing around and other problems slotting it into an S13 causes.

stop perpetuating old myths about the 'benefits' of an Rb20 swap. we've heard,seen,and been through it all many times before on here,and it's bullshit. they're a pig of an engine and anyone who thinks otherwise has their head up their arse.


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hahaha old myths? thier not old myths, ive just proven they arent. rb's have got more versatility then an sr and are a hell of a lot tougher. i dont want the overheating problems that come with an sr or rb25. 2j's and rb20's both love to rev and could probly sit on the limiter all day. now all i need is some feedback on which would be the best of the two. and how much i would be looking at for either including the time involved in the conversion and how hard it is to put one in.
and it wasnt sarcasm. also everyone should know that an auto goes harder then a manual anyday.

also. i wasnt comparing sr20 to an rb20. it was meant to be a 2j and an rb20de


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hahaha old myths? thier not old myths, ive just proven they arent. rb's have got more versatility then an sr and are a hell of a lot tougher. i dont want the overheating problems that come with an sr or rb25. 2j's and rb20's both love to rev and could probly sit on the limiter all day. now all i need is some feedback on which would be the best of the two. and how much i would be looking at for either including the time involved in the conversion and how hard it is to put one in.
and it wasnt sarcasm. also everyone should know that an auto goes harder then a manual anyday.

also. i wasnt comparing sr20 to an rb20. it was meant to be a 2j and an rb20de


lol your funny dude...
sit on rev limit all day... what more can i say but you really need to start attending practice days before you say you could sit it on red line all day without getting problems.. Rb20 are not as strong as SR20... 2j are strong engines but try sitting on rev limit and you see how strong things are.

without proper cooling any car is pron to overheating... if you dont think so? hit the track and you see how much your water,oil temps go up by...

driving on the street is nothing compared to on the track, if your doing it on the streets your an idiot and deserve to be caught...

Auto goes harder then a manual??? lol umm just because you got your licence as a auto and your restricted to driving auto only, it dosnt make auto cars go harder.

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I think there is one of 2 options here - You are taking the piss, or are completely clueless

If you are taking the piss, you will be banned.

If you are as clueless as you seem to be, why not pay attention to the people who DO know what they are on about. Most of the people who are replying here have been playing with Nissans for years. Some are mechanics. Some are regular circuit racers and/or drifters. Pay attention to them rather than trying to start shit

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none of my 3 SR20s have EVER overheated. i think youre either full of shit, been told some crap or think you know far more than you actually do.

but yeah what he said ^^^^

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this thread is getting funny.

proven which myth to be true? I haven't seen any evidence provided.

auto boxes go harder :lol:

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What kind of answer is that?

Displacement isnt everything.


When you're talking about NA and two similarly positioned engines of the same era, its most things.

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and an rb20 will have more torque due to the fact it has 2 extra pistons. its not all about displacment. look at like 6 litre v12's that are shitting on 7litre v8's


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and it wasnt sarcasm. also everyone should know that an auto goes harder then a manual anyday.


Thread locking time. No point feeding the troll / retard.

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also everyone should know that an auto goes harder then a manual anyday.


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haha. come on seriously. an auto will smash a manual down the strip anyday. the fastest drag cars in the world are auto......thought the tough car guys on here would know this. but fuck. you guys are all talk....and even then you dont know what your talkin about....man. you guys seem like youve just looked up silvia specs off of wikipedia.....embarrising guys....seriously


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none of my 3 SR20s have EVER overheated.

dood. lets get serious. "you" have no idea. seriously. if none of your sr's have over heated. then you havent seen QLD track temps then...


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yeah i guess youre right, ive never driven any of my cars to qld in the blistering heat with the aircon on

and just do you know, this is a NEW SOUTH WALES forum. so your queensland shit doesnt count here.

i already dont like you and youre only a handfull of posts in.

you sound like andy being a retard

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Dont fuck with admins boy, their always right.There admins for a reason.


SR's only over heat if you have something dodgy..
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My SR overheated from 5 mins on skidpan cuase i was running a ca18 radiator.

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haha. come on seriously. an auto will smash a manual down the strip anyday. the fastest drag cars in the world are auto......thought the tough car guys on here would know this. but fuck. you guys are all talk....and even then you dont know what your talkin about....man. you guys seem like youve just looked up silvia specs off of wikipedia.....embarrising guys....seriously


so,you want to 'slide' but then you want an auto,because it's the best for drag racing. what are you on?
the fastest drag cars in the world aren't auto btw,they're clutched. no gears,just progressive lockup. ever seen a rail up close? what's inside a lenco? no torque convertor that's for sure.

and autos 'smashing' manuals on the strip isn't a given either. a good manual driver will get as good a launch as an auto trans car can,if not better. especially if the auto box is std. a manual can launch at whatever rpm the driver dials up. the auto is limited to what stall speed the fitteed convertor spins up to. a 4k rpm launch in a manual vs. 2100 from a std auto isn't going to do the auto's 60' time any favours...
the main difference with manual vs. auto for drags is consistency. any idiot can point the car straight,plant their foot and hang on for a few seconds while the box does everything,the same way,every run.
getting a perfect launch out of a manual requires practice,and a bit of talent,so it can be a bit more hit and miss. this doesn't mean it's inferior,just that it takes a bit more work to get it right.
there are quite a few guys on here in the low 12's with 5 and 6 speeds. I guess they're backward as well huh? they should have bought autos?

we DO know what we're talking about mate. look around a bit and you'll realise that.
Now pull your head in,or go elsewhere. you're talking an awful lot of shit for someone who's been here for 5 minutes,and hasn't yet proven that he knows anything.


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