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PostPosted: Fri Jul 24, 2009 12:28 pm 
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I guess still the rule is the same - most defectable part is a young male in sports/loud/low/shiny car.

I don't really understand what was the problem with 10mm rule...


The biggest problem I have with all these changes is that getting engineering certificate for some reason cost too f%$king much. According to what others say its much more than standard 90 or so dollars an hour that mechanics usually charge.


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i believe the cost comes from them putting their neck on the line and the insurances that cover them. if they engineer your car, you change something and have an accident, you show your certificate, he gets ass raped and his family now has no where to live. that said, if the RTA offered that service for a reasonable fee, i think they would find that they would have many more cars coming in to be engineered and thus more safer, modified, cars on the road

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I know what you are saying and thought about it, but then again they kinda put their necks on the line anyway (as I understand, I have no idea about real agreements with insurance companies etc). Say if someone doesn't bolt up your wheels properly and you crash it makes them liable right? But what if you wanted to do insurance job and unbolted the wheel yourself....

For some reason I think in both cases their liability is very limited, but I might be wrong as I just don't know...

On the same note I don't really understand why dyno time is always calculated separately. I see it more as a tool like torque wrench, that can break or has its life span...


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On the same note I don't really understand why dyno time is always calculated separately. I see it more as a tool like torque wrench, that can break or has its life span...
Its like labour time, About $100 an hour for dyno time considering some people pay the same an hour to normal mechanic workshops to do plugs and stuff...

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ru55kj wrote:
According to what others say its much more than standard 90 or so dollars an hour that mechanics usually charge.

Last I heard engineers charge approx $180/hour, but that may vary pending on where you go

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From Aug 1 motorists are prohibited from lowering or raising their vehicles unless the alterations are approved by licensed RTA engineers at a cost of up to $1,000.

Vehicles that have been raised/lowered must carry a certificate stating the modifications conform to safety rules, failure to comply will incur fines of up to $7,700.


Jeez am I happy I'm driving around in a bomb and that my silvia will never see the road again. Seems the new laws are all about making money now

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Vitty wrote:
Daily Telegraph wrote:
From Aug 1 motorists are prohibited from lowering or raising their vehicles unless the alterations are approved by licensed RTA engineers at a cost of up to $1,000.

Vehicles that have been raised/lowered must carry a certificate stating the modifications conform to safety rules, failure to comply will incur fines of up to $7,700.


Jeez am I happy I'm driving around in a bomb and that my silvia will never see the road again. Seems the new laws are all about making money now


LOLOLOLOLOLOLOLOL
OMFG that just makes things even more bullshiet.
its gonna be so screwed up.
3 days to go lads, time to raise your car back up!
im doing it this weekend :(


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thank god my car is already scraping powerlines.


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damn, i just got back to Sydney and i heard about this new "law"
i'm planning to go get coilovers, so i can adjust it to a decent height would that pass? or even adjustable coilovers now need to be certified too


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well...

"TECHNICALLY" coilovers arn't standard hence defectable -_-
I have adjustable coilovers and never had an issue though, then again my car has never been hounded over by cops (touch wood)..

but anything non-standard needs to be engineered certified these days from my understanding...


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hmm thanks for that bb
i dont really have a choice i've had lowered springs for a few years now and i was planning to get coilovers sometime soon anyways, or i could my stock springs back in xD
i'll have to see, might give pro concept a call and see if Josh to help 'enlighten' me on this.


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oh no

this law sucks

i got really sad and sold all my coilovers 2wks back

now my car is at stock height and im waiting for my new coilys to come in


....so that i can go back to my old height of 4cm lowest point.

fk this law :)


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utesta, was your car stock height? it didnt look like it, it looked slightly lowered lol


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Ok so I just got off the phone with the friendly RTA Tech line.

Some things that he mentioned are:

*Any car modified previous to the introduction of this rule is exempt. They are still only bound by the 100mm rule plus 2/3 original suspension travel. He said that the owner will need to provide receipts, stat-dec or similar to say that the car was like that before the rule was introduced. There was also mention of a modified car register at the RTA so they know who modified what and when. These workarounds aren't clear yet.
*He said that the announcement by the minister was premature and that introduction will most probably be delayed to sort out all these issues.
*This law was aimed at the silly 4x4's that had been raise to ridiculous heights. The tech guy says that he thinks the police will abuse this power like they do with every other vehicle modification rule.

Also apparently the minister is having a meeting today with suspension manufacturers/ installers etc to try and resolve these issues. Tech guy said it will be interesting to see whether anything comes of it

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