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cypher1024 wrote:

robs13 wrote:

thats awesume. but i guess u need that much hp to do those moves.

Apart from the straight line run at the start, all of that could be replicated in a Silvia with 150rwkw. Probably less.

What you really need is a skilled driver.

You got to be kidding me?
I believe that clip was 50% car, 50% driver skills, i'd like to see you try half what he did in a 150rwkw Silvia!

Can every one else skid like reaper.?

How well reaper can drift has nothing to do with what motor he has in the car.

cypher could, he's done it before
all his comments come from years of personal experience

you are such a nub cypher... 150kw couldnt even do that first slide in the vid....
that much angle, and that much corner radius needs that much power to maintain the slide. it aint rocket surgery. an underpowered car would have a tendancy to straighten up....

Like I said before, the high speed stuff at the start wouldn't be possible but I don't see much of a problem with the rest.

oh and dont discount the fact that Ken Block is doing all this in an AWD car....

and we wouldnt have to put RBs in silvias if the SR wasnt such a tempramental little girl of a motor...

go back to dinner....

billy your fast becoming my hero, now all you needa do is sell that 25 and man up and stick a 20 in there...

...Juzzo hit it on the head...

JayS14 wrote:

Can every one else skid like reaper.?

anyone here with sr want to put their hand up? :roll:

well sir...
weightbalance has just as much influence on a drift car, as when you break it down... good race setup isnt too far off a good drift setup...

HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH.
Cypher got called Sunshine.
Fuck off back to school.

i stated a simple fact yet it had to be agrued by someone, pfft :roll:

Author:	reaper [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:39 pm ]
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Mr-Silvia wrote: cypher1024 wrote: robs13 wrote: thats awesume. but i guess u need that much hp to do those moves. Apart from the straight line run at the start, all of that could be replicated in a Silvia with 150rwkw. Probably less. What you really need is a skilled driver. You got to be kidding me? I believe that clip was 50% car, 50% driver skills, i'd like to see you try half what he did in a 150rwkw Silvia! cypher could, he's done it before all his comments come from years of personal experience

Author:	hokkaido [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 9:57 pm ]
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you are such a nub cypher... 150kw couldnt even do that first slide in the vid.... that much angle, and that much corner radius needs that much power to maintain the slide. it aint rocket surgery. an underpowered car would have a tendancy to straighten up.... oh and dont discount the fact that Ken Block is doing all this in an AWD car.... and we wouldnt have to put RBs in silvias if the SR wasnt such a tempramental little girl of a motor... go back to dinner....

Author:	Mr Bean [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:17 pm ]
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billy your fast becoming my hero, now all you needa do is sell that 25 and man up and stick a 20 in there...

Author:	badhairdave [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:20 pm ]
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And here's me thinking everyone was putting rb20's in s13's because they were cheaper than sr's, had more power on paper, and JMS did one years ago in HPI... Glad that one was cleared up for me. I'd have looked like a complete idiot if i had aired my views publicly.... Never discount the influence of a magazine on drifters/morons. Now, can the rb loving bunch of yokels get over the fact that an rb powered sil cannot turn or handle as well as an sr powered sil and get back on topic because you bunch of fucking 4th graders are really starting to piss me off.

Author:	hokkaido [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 10:56 pm ]
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is it lonely up there dave? glad u keyhole drifters as morons, cos u know... we must get blinded by our awesomeness Juzzo hit it on the head... JayS14 wrote: Can every one else skid like reaper.? anyone here with sr want to put their hand up?

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Author:	badhairdave [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:03 pm ]
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Not lonely at all, your ego is up here keeping me company. And i agree brett can skid better than all of us, but that doesn't mean his can can turn.

Author:	ZEi250t [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:06 pm ]
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i rekon i should get out my pushbike and put you all to shame 1mp RWD skidz bro

Author:	hokkaido [ Fri Nov 21, 2008 11:16 pm ]
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well sir... weightbalance has just as much influence on a drift car, as when you break it down... good race setup isnt too far off a good drift setup... weight balance plays a major influence on transitioning and entries... and I havent seen brett have any trouble with that... im dropping an rb25 in because an SR will no longer do what I want and be reliable, without spending more than the cars worth.. this rb25 conversion, will cost me close to the same amount as it would to rebuild and tune the SR, but I will have 260-270 kw and reliable at that.. anyways... ill worry about weight later. stiffer springs and a little more agression on the GT wing, to counter the extra fat up front, and I dare say the car will turn fine....

Author:	tehyoungone [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 1:38 am ]
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My god, that was amazing!! Doesn't take long for a thread to turn into an all out RB vs SR internet brawl...

Author:	Anabolic [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 5:38 am ]
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HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Cypher got called Sunshine. Fuck off back to school.

Author:	too_much_boost [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:32 am ]
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How well reaper can drift has nothing to do with what motor he has in the car. Its got to do with how much practice he has had. You morons should find a better argument than that Is reaper a better drifter than say... Darren Mews or Leighton Fine or Luke Fink? Their cars are SR. Does that end the argument?

Author:	hokkaido [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 11:57 am ]
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too_much_boost wrote: How well reaper can drift has nothing to do with what motor he has in the car. point exactly... it doesnt matter.... otherwise we'd all drive MRs....

Author:	robs13 [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 2:51 pm ]
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i stated a simple fact yet it had to be agrued by someone, pfft

Author:	fergo308 [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:27 pm ]
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so.... can you all get the fuck back on topic now? Justin...

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Author:	cypher1024 [ Sat Nov 22, 2008 8:38 pm ]
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I wasn't going to post again, but this is too much fun. reaper wrote: cypher could, he's done it before all his comments come from years of personal experience You don't know me. You don't know what I've done. Don't pretend that you do. hokkaido wrote: you are such a nub cypher... 150kw couldnt even do that first slide in the vid.... that much angle, and that much corner radius needs that much power to maintain the slide. it aint rocket surgery. an underpowered car would have a tendancy to straighten up.... You're exactly right. That was what I meant in my second post: cypher1024 wrote: Like I said before, the high speed stuff at the start wouldn't be possible but I don't see much of a problem with the rest. I should've specifically said that I meant the corners as well as the straight. My bad. hokkaido wrote: oh and dont discount the fact that Ken Block is doing all this in an AWD car.... Once again, I was thinking along similar lines. An S13 wont be able to exactly match some of the crazy shit the WRX can do, but my point was that you could complete that course in a very similar manner in a relatively low powered Silvia. Power is nice, but it isn't everything. hokkaido wrote: and we wouldnt have to put RBs in silvias if the SR wasnt such a tempramental little girl of a motor... Again, I can't disagree with you. The SR is a fantastic engine up to a point. It's only a 2 litre, 4 cylinder, so you can't expect enormous numbers and reliability. Everything's a compromise. For you guys shooting for numbers near 300, maybe the handling and weight tradeoff is worth it for the reliability you'll get from an RB25/26. I wasn't bagging the RB in the other thread, I was just trying to make the point that a Silvia with an RB isn't going to be quite as nimble as an SR. But if it does the job and you're happy with it, fantastic. hokkaido wrote: go back to dinner.... Is that a fat joke? Because you really could've done much better. Mr Bean wrote: billy your fast becoming my hero, now all you needa do is sell that 25 and man up and stick a 20 in there... I lol'd. Ok, so there is one RB swap I can't understand. hokkaido wrote: ...Juzzo hit it on the head... JayS14 wrote: Can every one else skid like reaper.? anyone here with sr want to put their hand up? That was never the point. Like tmb said, the fact that reaper is a fantastic drifter has nothing to do with the argument. It's about as relevant as saying "a fire truck is red". If anything, his skill would mask dull handling. hokkaido wrote: well sir... weightbalance has just as much influence on a drift car, as when you break it down... good race setup isnt too far off a good drift setup... I mentioned this in the other thread, but no one took much notice of it. Add swaybars to a good circuit car and dial out some rear camber and you have a drift car. That's why I said that if brett wants to prove that his car handles as well as an SR car, he just has to throw down some comparable laptimes and I'll be more than happy to shut up. I'll stick to my promise to eat a hat. (Maybe now's a good time for another fat joke??) I think I addressed the rest of your post in one of my comments above. I don't doubt that when you're done with the 25 swap, you'll have a very competitive drift car. Anabolic wrote: HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAH. Cypher got called Sunshine. Fuck off back to school. Sigh. School? Unless I start another degree, I doubt I'll be going to back to any kind of school. Protip: "Cypher got called Sunshine" isn't grammatically correct. Perhaps you should go back to school.... robs13 wrote: i stated a simple fact yet it had to be agrued by someone, pfft You didn't state a fact though. You made a statement. The whole point of a forum is that things can be discussed. Admittedly, things can get a little out of hand sometimes but generally discussions elevate all of us. Edit: Sorry fergo, I was still writing when you made your post.