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PostPosted: Sun Jan 27, 2008 9:30 pm 
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hey guys.

soon to be taking my s13 to a panel beater an getting some panel damage an the car resprayed.

has anyone got any hints/tips or had any previous experiences that they would kindly share with us.

ie who an who not to take there car too

* things to look out for

*other issues you have had.

thanks for your help people.


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 28, 2008 11:24 am 
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Here's my 2 cents:

Most shops specialise in insurance jobs. Getting a quote to get work done can often be expensive, perhaps more expensive than if you took it to a shop which deals mainly with private work. An example would be when I took my car to Crows Nest Smash, they quoted me $5000 for the spray work alone, not including removing the spoiler and painting the body kit. RS Performance at Moorebank quoted me just over $2200, for everything. Big difference, yes?

The old adage 'you get what you pay for' is true to an extent. But you must keep in mind that like in other industries, some places charge more just because they can. In my experience, going out to Liverpool the prices were cheaper generally, where on the North Shore they were at a premium considering all the rich krunts there.

Firstly, look for a place which actually says hi to you and asks if they can help you. I went to numerous shops where I had to wait 5 or 10 minutes, then ask for help, then have some grumpy mofo come out and give me a rip off quote. Jetspeed is one example that comes to mind...

Definitely go to a place which has an ABN. There is one pretty popular shop which doesn't, and although the paint work may be good, think of the legal repercussions if something goes wrong...like your car gets stolen!

Which brings me to another point: go to a place where they store your car inside at night, and they have a professional spray booth. Ask what paints they use, how many coats of clear and primer they use, what sort of prep they do. Most importantly, if you decide to go with them, drop in frequently (unannounced) and check on progress. Each time I did I was pleasantly surprised that no corners were being cut.

Also, without paying $10000+, don't expect absolute perfection. Spray painting by humans is almost impossible to get 100% perfect like machines can. That being said, there shouldn't be any drips, sinking areas, dents etc. However, even in a professional spray booth, there can be tiny amounts of dust so don't be too cut if one speck or so ends up in your paint.

Avoid candy colours. They're shit. Avoid any shade of black too. Painters hate it, it's very hard to keep clean, and swirl marks are there from the first day you own it. After owning a jet black car, I won't ever buy that colour again.


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i want a silvia wrote:
Here's my 2 cents:

Most shops specialise in insurance jobs. Getting a quote to get work done can often be expensive, perhaps more expensive than if you took it to a shop which deals mainly with private work. An example would be when I took my car to Crows Nest Smash, they quoted me $5000 for the spray work alone, not including removing the spoiler and painting the body kit. RS Performance at Moorebank quoted me just over $2200, for everything. Big difference, yes?

The old adage 'you get what you pay for' is true to an extent. But you must keep in mind that like in other industries, some places charge more just because they can. In my experience, going out to Liverpool the prices were cheaper generally, where on the North Shore they were at a premium considering all the rich krunts there.

Firstly, look for a place which actually says hi to you and asks if they can help you. I went to numerous shops where I had to wait 5 or 10 minutes, then ask for help, then have some grumpy mofo come out and give me a rip off quote. Jetspeed is one example that comes to mind...

Definitely go to a place which has an ABN. There is one pretty popular shop which doesn't, and although the paint work may be good, think of the legal repercussions if something goes wrong...like your car gets stolen!

Which brings me to another point: go to a place where they store your car inside at night, and they have a professional spray booth. Ask what paints they use, how many coats of clear and primer they use, what sort of prep they do. Most importantly, if you decide to go with them, drop in frequently (unannounced) and check on progress. Each time I did I was pleasantly surprised that no corners were being cut.

Also, without paying $10000+, don't expect absolute perfection. Spray painting by humans is almost impossible to get 100% perfect like machines can. That being said, there shouldn't be any drips, sinking areas, dents etc. However, even in a professional spray booth, there can be tiny amounts of dust so don't be too cut if one speck or so ends up in your paint.

Avoid candy colours. They're shit. Avoid any shade of black too. Painters hate it, it's very hard to keep clean, and swirl marks are there from the first day you own it. After owning a jet black car, I won't ever buy that colour again.


i was actually thinking of using crows nest smash as i walked past there on saturday an it seemed like they were expereinced due to the ammount of " rich cars" they had, but as you were saying they can charge watever they want due to larger wallets.

ive has also heard that RS PERFORMANCE do a good job for the price you pay also.

i wasnt thinking of goin black im goin toyota echo blue.which is abit different in my books. so dont worry candy was an will never be an option.

when u took your car to RS PERFORMANCE was it a drive in drive out?

obviusly if u do the prep etc it will be cheaper.

thanks for your help so far i want a silvia.


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Yes it was definitely drive-in, drive-out.

And they can do that colour for you too.


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PostPosted: Tue Feb 26, 2008 11:29 pm 
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Avoid candy colours. They're shit.


Why are they shit? Maybe if not done by experienced perfectionist etc will be shit. But done by a real pro in the field, not some 'wannabehektikcuntoftheyear' shop, you get a killer job done, but again, it aint cheap to do it 100% right.


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4_SI_WAY wrote:
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Avoid candy colours. They're shit.


Why are they shit? Maybe if not done by experienced perfectionist etc will be shit. But done by a real pro in the field, not some 'wannabehektikcuntoftheyear' shop, you get a killer job done, but again, it aint cheap to do it 100% right.


That's exactly right. There is a lot more risk involved, it costs more, and your car is almost uninsurable. All for a colour which typically features on Sik Habib's VL!


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:lol: I once owned a VL (n/a) what a shit box that thing was. But it got me around while my engine was being built.
No sick habib here though, but my 180 is being painted in a dark candy.
I'll get some pics up soon as it progresses.
Been in body repair and prepping for the last 4 weeks.


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who is doin your paint work? 2sus?


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2sus do candy paint jobs in a matter of days... They look good in the moment... But thats as far as I'll comment. Each to their own.
Mine spent almost a week in body work, ironing out any imperfection, then rubbed back to metal, hi-filled, left to sit for a week so that it really sets in and dries hard, rubbed back, then hi-filled again, left for another week, and now is ready for base colour coat, from their, the candy's etc, clears, and of course the flow coating etc. Took a while to pick my base colour, didnt want it too 'glittery/sparkly/metallic/autosalonspec. Just wanted a deep coloured classy hot rod like finish paint job. Very big job, done with utmost perfection and care. I plan on keeping the car till the end of my days, so I want it done perfect.


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4_SI_WAY wrote:
I plan on keeping the car till the end of my days, so I want it done perfect.

Which is pretty much what most rodders do anyway and do it because they love it, for anyone else that's just 'kind of keen' on cars the candy colours are a pain in the arse because they get scratched (either from stone chips or c*nt kids with keys) and a very high level of skill to repair properly, which in turn costs a lot.


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