Silvia Club of NSW

As the title suggests.....you can get defected for aftermarket seats now.

DAMN IT !! I really wanted a set of Bride Brix II`s...

Does anyone know if Bride seats and rails have had ADR approval ?

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dunno but bride copies apparently have full ADR's, selling on ns.com for 350 a pair...

So even if the aftermarket seads are ADR approved, its still defectable?

no

it depends on how they are installed...your best is still to get an engineers certificate for them to show that they are ADR approved and legal.

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Don't the rails have something to do with it as well? Just wondering if Bride rails are legal.

yeah that's what I meant by my post above...if you have to modify the standard rails then you definately have to get a engineers certificate. IIRC the only legal way to do it and not require a engineers cert is to use your standard rails and use adaptor plates...but only if all components are ADR approved.

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so meaning, although those copy bride seats are adr, or any other adr compliant seat for that matter has modification done to the rail or other rails, then it wont be legal? how about gtr seats with a tab welded to it, does that require a engineers?

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180sx/s13 stuff for sale- http://forum.silviansw.com/viewtopic.php?t=30110

It's always been that way, unless you have bolted in an approved seat using approved parts only then you will need engineers. The seat wll need an ADR to i'm sure.

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ANYTHING modified from factory fitment then it requires approval.

the bride rails are not ADR approved but can be engineered.

If you bolt an ADR approved seat into your car onto a factory rail that does not make it legal. The seat may be approved but that does not mean the way the seat is mounted to the rail (even if its a factory rail) is okay.

Seats have to be engineered full stop.

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Gtr seats almost bolt straight in dont they? You have to relocate one bolt, i think it was the rear center. Would that need to be engineered?

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If the seats are not factory fitment into that vehicle then yes they have to be engineered, UNLESS they were a factory option for that year model car.

For example early hilux's had a bench seat which can be removed and replaced with factory hilux seats without the need for approval.

The GTR seats were not factory fitment and technically should be approved, that said im yet to see someone get defected for having an OEM seat from another model in their car.

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Also if there exists a pre-approved kit (ie a seat and rail intended for your car WITH an approval) it should be legal to fit without engineers. There is a section of the vehicle modification rules that covers self installs. However i don't know of any seats that fit this catagory (they would usually be australian brands). This is the sort of rule that an approved towbar or bullbar would be fitted to a car without the need for engineers. Thats the general idea anwyays it's been ages since i read about it.

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yeah thats what ive been hearing lately.......

Funny thing is Bride seat rails are about the only rails I know of that are a direct bolt on fitment on skylines. ie no modifications required at all.

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Even the bride rails are not legal.

They are not factory and hense are in need of engineering.

Funnily enough I know of 2 cars that have had bride seats and rails. The seats were FAILED because the back support moves which is the way they are manufactured and the rails were not made to satisfactory standard according to the guy writting the papers.

Now the rules do state the back of the seat must be free of movement and locked in a solid position at all times which the brides are not, the rear "flops" a fair bit.
The rails I can't see his reasoning and when questioned the answer was tough luck they are not satisfactory.

The japanese must have very loose rules as a lot of jap products would not get approval over here.

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