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PostPosted: Wed Aug 17, 2005 1:45 pm 
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$1.35 a L, its getting pretty ridiculous


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holy shit, thats pretty bad. I thought my car was bad, but thats shocking. I get about 375km on city driving to 50l tank

$1.36 for 98ron mobil yesterday. I made sure i shook every last drop out of it :P :lol:


yeah,it is. but then,it's an 1800kg car,and it's factory ecu has it running 10's for A/F mixture under WOT. you'd think it's an SR20DET with an exhaust and the boost wound up.

on the freeway,it's a good 30% better though. especially as the cruise control won't let me go over 110km/h.

I've been putting the unichip install off for a while until I finish off the exhaust system,but at this rate,I may have to do it sooner rather than later. trimming the mixtures back to 12:1 will most likely save me a good $5 a week in fuel I won't be just dumping out of the exhaust...

those of you with untuned silvias may want to consider doing the same thing. besides making more power,you will be financially better off in the long run.


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have you had a look at the jaycar fuel adjuster fergo ?

looks promising


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can't say I have. part of that is that i wouldn't use anything from jaycar in that kind of application,and the rest is because I have the unichip already.


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haha you shouldnt be too quick to dismiss it, its a new release and was co-designed by julian edgar and john(?) clarke

but fair enough that you already have a unichip

FYI if anyone wants more info on it, heres a very big thread with LOTS of info about the new kits.. its worth the read :)

http://www.skylinesaustralia.com/forums/index.php?showtopic=61207


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it was partly designed by Julian Edgar? ok,now I will most definitely have nothing to do with one. I'll go back to carbies before I trust anything of his.


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Interesting. What's his history thats caused you to distrust him so fergo?

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he has a lot of strange ideas.
one that springs to mind was his reworking of the attessa system in his 32 GTR. anyone remember when he was at zoom back in the day? he wrote several articles on how he made his GTR 'better' by modding the attessa to make the car understeer.
why did he do this?
he lost control of it on a twisty road,and put the rear quarter of the car into a guardrail. rather than just blaming his own poor driving of the car,he was pretty adamant that the attessa was 'poorly designed' and needed to be 'fixed' so the car would 'handle better'.
the truth was,he had just come out of an understeer-biased liberty,and didn't know how to drive the nissan properly. like so many people who step into a powerful rear wheel drive from something with FF steer characteristics,he had a 'drift incident'.

then there's his book, '21st century performance'. a lot of it IS quite good,but there are plenty of mistakes as well,that will lead unwary punters astray.

I'll pass if he's involved thanks.


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then there's his book, '21st century performance'. a lot of it IS quite good,but there are plenty of mistakes as well,that will lead unwary punters astray.


So I wasn't the only one that read most of that book with cautious eyes :wink:

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I was lent a copy by a mate. he described it as belonging in the humour section,not automotive reference.


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true that. it seems to cover lot of nice ricey mods too :P

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the concept was by him, but the actual electronic board was designed by the other guy, who works for silicon magazine.

its fair enough there may have been mistakes in his book, and i dont really know about his tinkering with the attessa system on the GTR, but your putting down a product without really knowing ANYTHING directly about it

i dont care about julian, or anyone else involved with the project, im just evaluating the product ITSELF as is, and the results to me, speak for themselves.

thats my opinion, its fair enough to have yours, but i think your putting down the product for the wrong reason...


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Fair enough. I didn't know any of that before, so today hasn't been a total waste after all :D

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$1.36 for ultimate! :x

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the concept was by him, but the actual electronic board was designed by the other guy, who works for silicon magazine.

its fair enough there may have been mistakes in his book, and i dont really know about his tinkering with the attessa system on the GTR, but your putting down a product without really knowing ANYTHING directly about it

i dont care about julian, or anyone else involved with the project, im just evaluating the product ITSELF as is, and the results to me, speak for themselves.

thats my opinion, its fair enough to have yours, but i think your putting down the product for the wrong reason...



that's a fair call. it may work perfectly well,and I would expect it to be decent believe it or not.
I just won't have anything to do with one because (A.) I already have a better alternative sitting on a shelf in my room. and (B.) I don't trust anything Julian Edgar has had a hand in,no matter how remote. the same as I don't believe anything written by Martin Donnon. there's been too much crap from both of those sources in the past that they no longer have any credibility to me.


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