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one of my mate went back to nissan for service, went back to pick up the car, after 10mins of driving, the car start to go funny,
he end up going to a garage afterward then found out the power fc set up was totally messed up

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That's such a shit whinge about Nissan.

I live in Chatswood, and the Nissan service place closest to me broke 2 pieces of my factory interior trim then disavowed all knowledge of it.

They changed the oil just fine though.

(This was quite a while ago clearly, I take it to Pro-Concept now.)


he aint lying about that i saw it there the other day :D

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lol, my mate works servicing toyota's at bankstown toyota and ive heard some stories. wont say on here tho, might get in trouble for slander or something, hehe


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nissan service in st leonards are rude to me everytime. there is an old fuck that works there and spoke to me bluntly when i took a long time parking. well arent asian drivers allowed to park/drive slow? (kidding)
anyway, i had to ask him if he was the valet and if he could park it for me next time. old man shut up.

when i had s14 (5yrs ago) i took it in and it was the same oldfuck that insisted the car be road tested when i took it in for an oil change. he appears to me as one of those...."by -the books" fucker.


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I didnt expect such negative reaction over me explaining my prob, i guarantee if it was anyone else they'd be annoyed too.


Yes, but they'd be annoyed at themselves for missing something so obvious, and taking it to Nissan when it clearly wasn't Nissan's fault.

Nissan, of course, isn't entirely blameless. Those guys were stupid enough to assume whichever goon installed your aftermarket BOV was smart enough to set it up correctly, or the owner who chose to delve into the aftermarket would be some kind of enthusiast and know what to look for. Clearly overestimating a lot of people, they were.


Another thing I've noticed is quite a few OEM service centres "work to rule". They're mechanics, but most of them have never worked in a small workshop that deal with a lot of cars. So their first practical experience is getting trained by the OEM, on OEM products. So they're quite good, mechanically, on factory cars.

Ask your average Nissan service mechanic to work on, say, a Toyota and these "fresh grads" will have no idea what's going on. The brighter ones will be able to look at bits and recognise what they do, but for others if there's no service manual then there's a corresponding lack of clue.


Of course, you have some above-average Nissan mechanics who do take interest in their field outside their work's little collection but that's true for any field. Even then, most of them will only have an approximate idea. They'll have to hypothesise a lot of stuff based on mechanical principles, rather than being familiar with the implementation. Aftermarket bits are no different.

Try calling Dell Support for assistance for a crashig computer after you install a HP scanner, Seagate hard drive, and Apacer memory (all of which was not supplied by Dell), and see how far you get.

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Happens all the time. Really depends what people expect at the end of the day


I expect Sony to fix my PS2 under warranty after that dodgy Asian bloke fucked up the soldering job on the modchip.

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i used to work at audi\VW service centre in well i dont fink i should mention where but anywho
its true we onli do ever work on cars dat are factory standards if theres after market shyt in there well have no idea about it
and yes audi and vw owners do modify them
rs4, a4 turbo all these other crap and they expect us to deal with all their problems
most of the time well have no idea on wtf is goin on
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dont expect nissan to know anything about after market stuff eaither

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what scathing has written is exactly right.

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As with many workshops it seems to be a bit of a lottery. Some places and people do give a shit and arent' just in it for the $ or a job and go beyond the call of duty. Others are worthy of a fair trading complaint (MTA, CTTT etc).

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Why would you take your car to Nissan to get your oil changed?

It's not that hard, do it yourself

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That's not the point really, the poor bastard goes on here to bitch (where he should do) only to have people bitch at him for disn nissan (no pun intended). Having been an apprentice at Nissan many years ago (lasted a whole 6 months) I can tell you for certain that the care factor of some the guys there was less than zero and like I said in the previous post some took alot of pride in the work they did and it showed in quality of the repairs/servicing they did.

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Nissan Dealers service centres SUCK and I have had nothing but bad experiences.

I bought my S15 new. Took it in to the dealer for the 1,000km service/check up. Had a few small issues when I dropped it in. Picked it up at the end of the day and they had fixed nothing, I am net even sure if they worked on the car. They gave me some bull shit story about tyre pressures and they washed the car and completely fucked the black paint.

Took it in to another dealer for some minor warranty work. The mechanic that worked on my car looked like he was 16 years old. His eyes lit up when he saw the car (I was worried as I have semi slicks on the car and was worried he would wrap it round a pole on cold tyres). They put over 20 km on the car, changed all the radio stations and took a passenger. Fixed only one of the problems and had bad attitudes.

All the people defending Nissan must work there. An air leak is an air leak and any 1st year apprentice should be able to repair it, after market blow off valve or not.

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For starters, your slagging a Nissan dealership in a Nissan forum (good job)...

Nissan have done something wrong here, they failed to inform you the issue existed when you came to "pick the car up" that afternoon.

I dont work for Nissan, but I did do a 1st yr apprenticesip with a "manufacturer", and we where told specifically, DO NOT FUCK WITH AFTERMARKET PRODUCTS, reason being, without Dyno facilities, and training in the item, you dont know how it's fitted into the car.

With things like possible faulty actuators, BOV's, ECU's, etc we would advise the customer of the believed fault, and inform them that they have to go to the place that fitted them because our mechanics where not trained for those devices.

At te end of the day, it saves them from liability in a product that may not even be designfor the car.

With a BOV, if they had wrongly adjusted the vavle, it might not work correctly, and correct me if I am wrong, but then you would have been there winging they fucked your valve.

I have seen a Nissan roll up to a workshop, get worked on for over a week, and not fix the backfiring issue experienced, and it turned out the fuckwit owner had tried to modify the ECU himself, and had the ECU set to run an SR20DET fuel map on an SR20DE motor, therefore over-fueling, and blowing and burning the fuel on off-throttle, causing the backfire.

The dealership that worked on the car didn't find out about the modified ECU until after they had gone to replace the ECU as an experiment, and found the screws tampered with, then opened it up to finaftermarket shit inside it (at this point the car was handed back to the owner to get te ECU repaired).

You have gone into a worshop, failed to devolged all the changed to a stock car, so the dealership has treated the car as stock, and only worked on the non-modified sections of the car.

If you could be fucked to rad th T's and C's of the service agreement, I am sure they mention modification will not be touched, this is because they dont want liability of someone elses possible fuckup.

You dont like it, then go elsewhere, but if you want a decent NISSAN service, go to Nissan, but understand they are NISSAN SPECIALISTS, not "modification specialists".

Maybe go to somewhere like Unigroup Engineering next time, these guys are spcialists in modified vehicles, and have the training and ability to work on all this shit, Nissan will only ever work on Nissan.

Also, WTF does someone's workplace have to do with their opinion in this post, I know a person in this thread that works at Nissan, admits the fuck-ups that happen in his workshop, and wont for a minute try to uptalk his workshop if thedont actualy deserve it, again, Nissan specialise in stock Nissans, Engineering groups such as Unigroup, or others specialise in modifications to vehicles.

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For starters, your slagging a Nissan dealership in a Nissan forum (good job)


What do we care, Nissan Motor Co. doesn't own this website so they do not influence our opinions.


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oppinions are oppinions and everyone is welcome to have one.

There is good and bad about EVERY workshop be it CRD or a local repco service center.
I hear all sorts of horror stories and see the aftermath of a lot of dodgy work. You would be suprised at some of the names too.

My biggest pet hate is people that say "oh go here such and such is the best and really know's everything"
I can't stand such blindness especially from people that should know better.

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