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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:14 pm 
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If anyone saw the daily telegraph Yesterday (Saturday) , in the cars section. There was some old POS Austin Healy or something, that was the 'readers feature' or some crap like that.

Keep in mind these are the tabloids that like to put P plater crashes on the front page.

What you see is an older man with his Austin, with a durty great big 350 in it, sticking out the bonnet (pretty sure thats illegal) and also running NOS (illegal on the street) and the article even goes on to point out that it is road registered (actually makes a point of it!!).

It has an inset picture of him doing a burnout to top things off.
He says its all stock except the engine and wheels (umm, deathmachine? standard brakes and suspension?)

Now replace this car and driver with say... a Silvia/Skyline and replace said bogan with say.... 20 year old male...... Let's see them print that!!*






*Of course they would print it, on the front cover, wrapped around a tree.

Grrrr :evil:

Sorry . I feel better

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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 9:34 pm 
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thats a DAMN good example youve got there... stick that up em! :wink:

Compare Riskings S13 to that thing for example; S13 with upgraded brakes and suspension, with a powerful engine - but being completely legal, against an old (and thus old tech brakes and suspension) using clearly illegal items, of which should never have been allowed to be registered (if you put in a bigger engine, you have to put on bigger brakes!).

It would make the perfect comparo to prove our innocence, but as we are the youngins', even with PROOF we will still be targetted.


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PostPosted: Sun Apr 17, 2005 10:07 pm 
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Put nitrous oxide in something as nuggety as a CA18DE S13 and the Daily Telegraph would wet themselves over how dangerous it was, even though the thing would still pull up and turn better than an Austin Healey with just nitrous.


Just fucking typical. If you see that article online, link to it and I'll be sure to give the fuckers a piece of my mind.

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Had a chance to read the article today and I'm afraid Serial Killa's post is way off the mark.

The car is an old Morris Minor (agree it is a POS)
It was originally built by a proper workshop
The burnout in the pics was done at Summernats where it is almost illegal NOT to do a burnout. :D
The car is not registered. It has been in the past, and the owner is interested in getting it registered again.
The car would be elligible for rego under the Hot Rod scheme which is very restrictive about how/when the car can be used.
Owner said it has standard paint and trim, they don't highlight much else except to say he would like to refit the original external indicators.
It is no less legal than half the cars that turn up for the Wednesday night off-street drags

You can be damned sure the owner won't be driving it to Peats Ridge/The Rocks/Brighton Le Sands/Fairfield (etc) late at night.

Maybe if a 20 year old Silvia/Skyline owner with a decent car and story were to contact the Tele's motoring editor, there is a reasonable chance they would do an article on it.

A good story has a lot more than:
I saw the car on a Japanese web site.
I asked someone to buy it on my behalf and send it to Aust.
10 weeks later the car arrived, got customs clearance and I finally got to drive it. End of story.

They will want to know what makes it special/unusual/rare/significant. A 1966 Silvia or Skyline fits the bill. A later model with a decent competition history fits the bill. An S13 with an SR20DET conversion; common as muck and who gives a f*ck.

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Argument fore media = bias, tonight 18/4/05 on ACA syd it showed a segment on street racing, usual seens of cars racing, doing dohies etc… What pissed me off about the segment they held was the fact that they actually speed up the footage to give illusion the cars where going faster that the real time footage. Ray should be ashamed for presenting that crock of shit! Ok what was being done was illegal, but bending reality trying to shock general public beyond realism is fucked!

Anyone else notice this??


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PostPosted: Mon Apr 18, 2005 11:48 pm 
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Serial Killa was on the mark in general banzai. If you got a 50 year old car enthusiest with an old triumph or corvette with a twin-superchraged 454 in it and an 18year old Red P-Plater with a gtr skyline they arnt going to be nice to the p-plater.

Oh and about the..."Who gives a fuck about an sr20det converted s13", just about all the 2000 people on these forums.

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Ray should be ashamed for presenting that crock of shit!


Ray's a disgusting parasite that hasn't had any journalistic integrity for at least 20 years. There is never anything other than tabloid drivel on any commercial channel "current affairs" program, however much they try to sex them up with ads. Its been proven in the past that a sizeable fraction of the stories on those shows are totally fictional. It amazes me that anyone watches this trash, let alone thinks that it is a shining example of ethical journalism or presents anything even resembling a truthful or balanced viewpoint.

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I don't doubt that a large percentage of people on this or other Silvia forums are interested in fitting SR20s in S13s. I would be more surprised if they weren't. My point is; it is how common that conversion is that makes it less interesting to ther people.

You don't see a V8 Morris every day. Morris Minors are also cars that most people laugh at even though their grandmother probably had one. That contrast is what made it interesting for the newspaper.

Stick a V8 boat anchor in an S13 and it would attract attention for how unusual it is. It might destroy the balance and be a POS to drive but it would be unusual and therefore a story worth telling.

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That filthy jizzrag Ray Martin has no shame, so its a moot point.

If that walking example of why we should legalise post-birth abortions had any journalistic integrity at all when he started in the industry, his stints at the excretable Channel 9 network's muckrakers (60 Minutes and ACA) would have defecated on any vestige of professional ethics and honour the little toad had.

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Oh and about the..."Who gives a fuck about an sr20det converted s13", just about all the 2000 people on these forums.


Too bad the 2000 people on these forums don't match the hundreds of thousands of people out there who don't give a shit about some cheap-as grey import with no real heritage in this country.

And, in the end, that's the demographic the mainstream newspapers aim for. Cars that people remember (and old Morris' are probably remembered fondly by senile old people who forget how Britishly crap the cars were) with a big, fuck-off donk.

By the same token, if the owner had dropped an SR20DET into the Morris (which would still be overkill) it would probably still get the same press time since you've now got a rotbox that senile old people remember fondly with a modern, high-performance engine.

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Oh and about the..."Who gives a fuck about an sr20det converted s13", just about all the 2000 people on these forums.


true,but how many of you will buy the paper,compared to the hundreds of thousands of older guys out there with their old V8's,morrises and vintage cars?
quit thinking you're part of some huge group,because you aren't. outside of these forums,most normal people think 'silvia' is a girl's name and nothing more.

if you want coverage,try sending something newsworthy to the editor,as Banzai has suggested. otherwise,shutup. whinging about bad press doesn't get you anywhere,if you want good publicity for the car you choose to drive,give them some to print,simple as that.


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Was just making a point with the sr converted s13.

Like any person is going to buy the paper to read an article on a car. Mabey a few, but they are going to buy it for all the other headlines and reports that are in there. Weather, stock reports, horses, etc.

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If they wanted an sr conversion or a big block in a morris they would buy a car magazine. We would buy drift battle, hpi,etc...they would by fossil fuels.

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Additionally, there are thousands of silvias, imports and the like nowadays. Everyday i see at least a bunch of imports driving around, and its rare that you see an extensively restored vintage. Our "little group" is not so exclusive.

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PostPosted: Tue Apr 19, 2005 9:24 pm 
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I was more on about how much the media sux.

Just replace every image in that article with an import (even the legal burnout at summernats) and the driver with a p plater and it wouldnt even get into the paper. Maybe as a different kind of story:

"YOUNG DRIVERS ALLOWED TO PRACTICE DANGEROUS DRIVING"

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