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 Post subject: turbo a non turbo sr20
PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 4:36 pm 
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what would i need to turbo a sr20de.. ive got a turbo and manifold, with stock cooler and piping.. wat else would i need? would my engine b able to handle it?


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PostPosted: Mon Jan 17, 2005 5:39 pm 
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you need to do a search on these forums :)

Basically, yes the engine will handle it. 150rwkw or so is easily doable with a decent cooler, and is quite reliable as long as it's well tuned.

The problem is that adding oil and water lines for the turbo is not easy to do properly. You could probably get away with doing it dodgy and it'll work, but if you have something fail it won't be pretty.

You'll also need to upgrade your fuel system (injectors, pump, etc) and the ECU will need to be remapped or replaced with something tuneable.

In the end unless you can do it all yourself you'll find it's easier and possibly even cheaper to swap in a turbo engine.

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no kidding, thats alot of bloody work.

had to read the reply 3 times just to remember wot it said. :lol:

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You'll also need oil squirters,
I have been told as I was asking around that if it took say 4-5k to turbo a sr20de youll get better results than spending 4-5k doin a complete swap of motor to the stock sr20det.

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yeah if you spend 4-5k on the DE it will go better than a 4-5k DET conversion, but if you did the DET conversion yourself and spent the rest on mods it'll be a simpler job with better results - and longer life.

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PostPosted: Sun May 01, 2005 1:45 pm 
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trust dumhead, like he said to me (and its true) its alot easier to do the oil and water lines with the engine on an engine stand.


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my friends got a sr20de n he turbo is running safe on dyno got 140kw at the wheel on 9 psi the guy told to if he got a bigger cooler then the standard he could get around 180 n do the dump pipe with a high flow cat n u could get more put of it if u want a mechaince to put it all together ther a mad one in parramatta that did my friends car n did a ready good job on it as well


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my friends got a sr20de n he turbo is running safe on dyno got 140kw at the wheel on 9 psi the guy told to if he got a bigger cooler then the standard he could get around 180 n do the dump pipe with a high flow cat n u could get more put of it if u want a mechaince to put it all together ther a mad one in parramatta that did my friends car n did a ready good job on it as well


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lol, i cant understand that.
Someone care to translate?


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sorry guys

yeah one of my mates his got a sr20de s13. he bought all the things off the forum the turbo T25 from a red top motor with the standard mainfoild and standard dump pipe with oxgyen sensor the standard intercooler and piping, with black top injecter and a 500cc fuel pump. we got all the oil and water line done braded sorry couldnt spell that. we left the standard air flow meter in it. then he took it to i think unigroup for dyno tune they had it for three days n now it his 140kw at the wheels on 9psi running safe. the guys that tuned it said we can put more power to it if u get a full exhaust done 3inch piping high flow cat bigger cooler.

this car scared the fuk out of me when its on full boost, EDIT: remember this is viewable by ANYONE :o take care what you post for your own sake.

sorry about before


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 11:22 am 
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does anyone know if the internal can keep standard untouch but with that power output? as i want to keep the engine untouch
basically i am trying to do the same thing and i have all these ready

aftermarket FMIC kit
aftermarket turboback exhaust to the end
aftermarket turbo manifold
a T28
..will i be able to run on a SR20DET ECU instead?
and what else i need to complete this?


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PostPosted: Wed Jan 04, 2006 6:18 pm 
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JC wrote:
You'll also need oil squirters,


You do not NEED oil squirter's.

There are plenty of motor's that don't come turbocharged factory, without oil squirter's, that survive long and happy live's WITHOUT oil squirter's.

They're great, but not a necessity.


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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 3:48 pm 
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De silvia wrote:
does anyone know if the internal can keep standard untouch but with that power output? as i want to keep the engine untouch
basically i am trying to do the same thing and i have all these ready

aftermarket FMIC kit
aftermarket turboback exhaust to the end
aftermarket turbo manifold
a T28
..will i be able to run on a SR20DET ECU instead?
and what else i need to complete this?


yes the internals will be abel to handle the power as long as you do not take your car to redline everyday, we have a member on PGA that has 180KW in his SR20DE SSS using a T28 turbo.

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yes the internals will be abel to handle the power as long as you do not take your car to redline everyday

I'd replace that line with 'as long as your tune is decent' i flogged the hell out of my SR20DE with turbo on the drift gazelle, it spent quite alot of time bouncing off the limiter.....
Tune was safe though so no piston melting and i had an oil cooler.

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PostPosted: Sun Jan 15, 2006 9:29 pm 
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DumHed wrote:
you need to do a search on these forums :)

Basically, yes the engine will handle it. 150rwkw or so is easily doable with a decent cooler, and is quite reliable as long as it's well tuned.

The problem is that adding oil and water lines for the turbo is not easy to do properly. You could probably get away with doing it dodgy and it'll work, but if you have something fail it won't be pretty.

You'll also need to upgrade your fuel system (injectors, pump, etc) and the ECU will need to be remapped or replaced with something tuneable.

In the end unless you can do it all yourself you'll find it's easier and possibly even cheaper to swap in a turbo engine.


will a s15 stock cooler fit the job at low boost levels ? whats the max amount of boost you would run using a s14 t28 thru a s15 intercooler ?

for the oil lines, will the sr20det sump bolt on ? then just using standard manifold and oil dump lines, it shud all fit up right ?
oil feed lines can easily be taken from the oil pressure sender using a t conenctor.

water lines can be taken off the heater hoses etc ? shudnt be too dodgy..

dumhed i sent u an email about the ecu tuning you can do. reply when you can. thanks heaps


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